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♪

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Cathouse was my first
introduction to, like...

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prostitution.

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I arrived while they were
filming Cathouse on HBO.

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Cathouse put the
Moonlite Bunny Ranch

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and Dennis Hof
on the map.

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Suddenly,
everybody in America

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knew what the
Bunny Ranch was.

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The show flaunted the
amount of money

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that girls can make.

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I'm a businessman. I'm a
partner with these girls.

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You see the girls...

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making money
on the show.

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And, then you're like,
let's go for it.

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Younger women
were being drawn in

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by the show itself.

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They're coming because they
bought into this idea

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that this is this hidden gem
of a career opportunity.

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Cathouse definitely
made it seem like it was...

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the Playboy Mansion.

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It wasn't like
that at all.

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It was like,
oh [beep].

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It was sold as this
illusion of power.

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[Dennis] They're independent
contractors.

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They don't have to work
unless they want to.

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But that's not
the reality.

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And you become

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constantly trying
to pay off your tab.

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I felt, I'm never gonna be
able to leave here

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because I can't
pay that debt off.

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Its debt bondage.

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This is brutal out here.

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Dennis owned all of us.

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If you don't do
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they become violent.

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Once you're there,
you're not allowed to leave.

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I was trapped.

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♪

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It was no longer safe.

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♪ [moody pop]

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<i>♪ You put me under
the covers. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ For all the world
to see. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ But I never
recovered. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ You never
cared about me. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ So now you're
being uncovered. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I kept all
the receipts. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ You and all
of the others. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Under a fantasy. ♪</i>

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♪

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♪

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[Crew] Interview
Dolly Hart.

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Around the time
that I caught

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a glimpse of Cathouse,

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I want to say I was
probably like 11, 12.

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Being something that
was on late at night

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that my parents didn't
really want me to watch.

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And as a kid, that only
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They would go to bed,

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and I would sneak
out of my room,

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go downstairs,
and I would watch it

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with the volume
turned down low.

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[Dolly] The girls looked
like they were having fun.

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I think what got me
the most is, like,

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the camaraderie
between the women.

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Just that,
seeing how...

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you can make
friends there.

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I'm over here thinking,
like, when I grow up,

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I'm gonna visit
the Bunny Ranch.

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[Alice] I just thought it was
like the coolest thing, like...

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damn, getting paid to
just be gorgeous, like...

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Yes,
that sounds amazing.

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So I decided I'm gonna
go to the Bunny Ranch.

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After the first season of
Cathouse had been on the air,

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young women wanted to...

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live in the glamor
image of it.

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And so, the show
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younger women to
the Bunny Ranch.

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It kind of grew on me as
we were working there,

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that people were
being drawn in

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by the show itself.

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It became clear to me
that we were part of

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the recruiting system
for the Bunny Ranch.

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I, I, I did not
feel good about it.

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I did not feel
good about that.

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In the early 2000s,

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Cathouse the
television series,

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focuses on the prostitutes
at the Moonlite Bunny Ranch.

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It is a phenomenal success.

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It's seen by 2.6 million
people in its first airing.

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Dennis Hof is getting
free advertising,

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and HBO is also
getting a money-maker.

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Once mainstream
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oh, it was
just golden, right?

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They wanted more
because

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their ratings went
through the roof.

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It was like full blown
celebrity-ism.

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[indistinct chatter]

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I didn't think
that it would be

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all over the
place like it was.

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I had no idea, until I saw
the show dubbed in Spanish,

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and I realized,
wow,

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this, this is
actually a big deal.

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[Dennis] We've taken
my house, my Cathouse,

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into the homes of
people in 27 languages,

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in 49 countries, and you
know what they do?

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They look at it, and say,
"That ain't so bad."

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[News] Dennis Hof is a
multi-millionaire.

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[Dennis] I don't
recruit girls.

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They come to me.

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[News] The Bunny Ranch name
has become so successful,

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it's now a highly
watched series on HBO,

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appropriately called
"Cathouse."

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And the biggest
cat of all, Dennis Hof,

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says this is just the
beginning of

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a budding bunny empire.

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The Bunny Ranch was
Dennis's first brothel.

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It was in a little
circular area,

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almost like a
little strip mall,

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and it was all brothels that
had different brothel owners.

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Dennis didn't like having
his competition

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right outside
his front door,

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so he started
buying them up.

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His whole focus was on
getting these girls

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to make him really insane
amounts of money.

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[Alice] He was like
the Monopoly Man

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of all the brothels.

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He would just buy them
off of people,

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and he'd buy one,
then the next,

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and the next,
and the next, and the next.

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[Dennis] In northern Nevada,
where the Bunny Ranch is,

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I have four places
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But you fly into Reno.

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I have three places in
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that are one hour
from the strip.

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He was very successful.

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He was making money left-
I mean, left and right.

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He just started
transforming them.

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He cleaned them up.

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[Amy] He was like
the remodel king.

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I mean,
"Pull that carpet out.

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Make this bigger."

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[Glen] He just completely
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and turned them into

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multi-million-dollar
investments.

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[Alice] So there's this
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new ladies to be
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Not to mention that
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appeal to fresh faces.

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And Dennis loved
the new ladies.

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[Dennis] These are the girls
from the new season

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right here,
all these hot blondes.

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[Host] How do you
recruit the women?

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[Dennis] We don't
recruit the girls.

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Uh, we recruit the girls
by them watching

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our TV show on HBO.

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They'll hear me
on Howard Stern,

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or they'll see us
in magazines.

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That's how we do this.

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[Amy] People wanted
to be on the show.

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Oh my God,
people came from all over.

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If you look at
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how it is that
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it's because of
Cathouse.

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Women trust women so,

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when they see them
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and then apply
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it's part of the exploiter's
marketing toolbox

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to make sure that you
normalize an atrocity.

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[Racquel] Cathouse was
promoting a very

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enticing message
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that was really
nefarious.

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What it says to us, frankly,
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if so many people are
interested in doing it.

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[Dennis] These are
all applications. New York.

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Dartmouth, Massachusetts.
Clarksville, Tennessee.

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Miami, Florida.

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Some of the good ones
do slip through.

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That's why it is
good to be, ah, um...

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consistent and keep going
and keep emailing me.

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[Tom] Many more young women
from places like...

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Indiana and Ohio

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learned about the
Bunny Ranch and came.

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♪

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[Dolly] I just saw, like,
the velvet couch,

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the pink bunny house,

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and it was like,
this is so cute.

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As a girl, I was having
trouble making friends

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because I'm like,
this first-generation little

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Mexican girl getting
bullied left and right and,

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being labelled
the ugly duckling.

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I have extremely curly hair,
and so...

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I guess I was very
racially ambiguous,

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so I was being
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It was brutal.

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And, I didn't come from
a privileged background,

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so I was working
17-hour days,

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6 days a week.

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You're tired,
you're burnt out.

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And you see the girls

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making money on
the show, and...

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then you're like,

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"Let's go for it.
Let's do it."

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[Racquel] Cathouse really
packages prostitution

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in this neat, little,
cute package,

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and it makes it very
marketable to young women.

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The story really comes
together in the editing booth.

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Those are decisions
that are made by HBO.

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The design and music of the
opening credits of Cathouse

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feel like a sitcom.

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♪ [upbeat] ♪

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♪

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[Racquel] And when
we think of sitcoms,

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we automatically
think about something

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that is happy,
that is fun,

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that is light in tone.

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It predisposes young women
to like these characters,

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and I find myself rooting
for the people that

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I'm supposed to root for,
according to the show.

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And I,
I know better,

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and yet I still
feel that pull.

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Yeah, we did get a
number of girls who came

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after seeing the show,
like Brooke Taylor.

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[Racquel]
In episode one of

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the second season
of Cathouse,

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the young woman,
Brooke,

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we see her for
the first time,

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she has pigtails,
you know,

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she looks like
Cindy Lou Who.

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[Woman] A little nervous.
[laughing]

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[Brooke] Oh.
That's okay. Me too.

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[laughing]
We'll be nervous together.

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- So you're going too?
- Yes.

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Oh, God, all right.

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Great, great, great.
Well, hey!

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[Racquel] I find it
disturbing because

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it's making it cutesy
and infantilizing them.

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It's making it as if
they're little girls...

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as if these women are
not now about to go

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and do very, you know,
like adult work.

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<i>♪ Here, pretty kitty.
Here, pretty kitty. ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Here... ♪</i>

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<i>♪ pretty kitty. ♪</i>

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- Brooke?
- Yes, hi.

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It's nice to meet you.

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We would lean toward music
that could be kind of cheeky.

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You were going to be
a cat in the Cathouse.

252
00:10:40,208 --> 00:10:42,957
And that's the name of
the show, is Cathouse.

253
00:10:42,958 --> 00:10:45,958
So, here comes
Kitty, Kitty.

254
00:10:46,083 --> 00:10:49,583
But I didn't think of it as,
"come one, come all."

255
00:10:49,708 --> 00:10:51,666
There wasn't a
Snidely Whiplash, you know.

256
00:10:51,667 --> 00:10:54,374
"Here, Kitty Kitty,
you know, come to,

257
00:10:54,375 --> 00:10:57,457
come to destroy your life,"
or anything like that.

258
00:10:57,458 --> 00:11:00,332
It's, I guess, a testament
of my naivety.

259
00:11:00,333 --> 00:11:03,207
[Tom] This was the kind of
avalanche of girls

260
00:11:03,208 --> 00:11:07,999
who had found out by
seeing the first season.

261
00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,457
- Can you see it?
- Oh, I do see it.

262
00:11:09,458 --> 00:11:10,875
Oh my God.
[laughing]

263
00:11:11,042 --> 00:11:12,707
[Jill] Oh my God,
I remember filming this.

264
00:11:12,708 --> 00:11:15,167
[Brooke] Bunny Ranch!
Let's do it.

265
00:11:23,625 --> 00:11:26,291
[Jill] Well, I...

266
00:11:26,292 --> 00:11:28,582
if a girl is of age...

267
00:11:28,583 --> 00:11:30,667
you know, I mean,

268
00:11:30,792 --> 00:11:32,041
we ended up getting,
you know,

269
00:11:32,042 --> 00:11:33,457
after the show
started airing,

270
00:11:33,458 --> 00:11:35,749
getting a lot of people
that came in,

271
00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:38,667
you know, some girls.
But yeah, I mean...

272
00:11:38,792 --> 00:11:41,624
I guess I never
thought of it that way.

273
00:11:41,625 --> 00:11:44,166
As a recruitment thing.

274
00:11:44,167 --> 00:11:47,374
[Dolly] Cathouse definitely
made it seem like it was...

275
00:11:47,375 --> 00:11:49,582
the Playboy Mansion with

276
00:11:49,583 --> 00:11:51,666
Bunny playmates

277
00:11:51,667 --> 00:11:54,582
jumping on each other,
tickle fighting.

278
00:11:54,583 --> 00:11:56,499
But it was
nothing like that.

279
00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:58,791
♪ [menacing]

280
00:11:58,792 --> 00:12:01,208
Not everything
you see on TV is a reality.

281
00:12:07,292 --> 00:12:08,375
I love your show on HBO.
I've been watching it.

282
00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:10,416
It's great, The Bunny Ranch.
[Dennis] Yeah.

283
00:12:10,417 --> 00:12:11,832
At the time
I was at HBO,

284
00:12:11,833 --> 00:12:14,416
HBO was really at the
top of their game.

285
00:12:14,417 --> 00:12:17,499
They were very, very popular.
Very, very successful.

286
00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:19,332
You had shows
like The Sopranos.

287
00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:22,166
And HBO always wanted
to be a little edgy,

288
00:12:22,167 --> 00:12:25,666
and so there were a
number of programs

289
00:12:25,667 --> 00:12:29,666
that were very edgy,
sexually. Sex sells.

290
00:12:29,667 --> 00:12:33,333
HBO were among the
first of television

291
00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,666
to really bank
on that notion.

292
00:12:36,667 --> 00:12:41,291
But Cathouse was
glamorizing the sex trade.

293
00:12:41,292 --> 00:12:43,917
It was glamorizing pimps.

294
00:12:44,042 --> 00:12:47,832
It was not looking at the
suffering of the women

295
00:12:47,833 --> 00:12:50,166
who are in
these brothels.

296
00:12:50,167 --> 00:12:53,457
So, after four years,
I left HBO.

297
00:12:53,458 --> 00:12:58,125
I went to this organization
called Equality Now.

298
00:12:58,250 --> 00:13:02,749
And when Cathouse
aired for the first time,

299
00:13:02,750 --> 00:13:05,332
we wondered at the time

300
00:13:05,333 --> 00:13:06,666
how we would deal with

301
00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:09,457
sexual exploitation
as entertainment.

302
00:13:09,458 --> 00:13:12,541
[Suzette] I try to make it
as nice as possible,

303
00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:14,500
so they don't really
want to leave.

304
00:13:14,625 --> 00:13:17,707
They want to stay here
and have fun.

305
00:13:17,708 --> 00:13:20,374
[Taina] There's
free-flowing alcohol

306
00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:21,750
and everybody's
laughing.

307
00:13:21,875 --> 00:13:23,457
There's a pool.

308
00:13:23,458 --> 00:13:26,832
I mean, it's a beautiful
marketing ploy to recruit...

309
00:13:26,833 --> 00:13:29,707
young, vulnerable women
to try it out.

310
00:13:29,708 --> 00:13:31,707
Dennis had
underage girls,

311
00:13:31,708 --> 00:13:33,332
who weren't
quite 18,

312
00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:35,624
sending him nude photos
and things like that.

313
00:13:35,625 --> 00:13:38,874
He loved the idea of
hiring a girl and

314
00:13:38,875 --> 00:13:41,832
having her start when
she was 18 years old.

315
00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:44,791
He loved young girls because
you can control them.

316
00:13:44,792 --> 00:13:46,582
It's all about control.

317
00:13:46,583 --> 00:13:48,000
♪

318
00:13:48,208 --> 00:13:50,874
He had people that worked
for him that would sit outside

319
00:13:50,875 --> 00:13:54,042
Dayton High School and
Carson High School.

320
00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,374
Tried to recruit
young women.

321
00:13:56,375 --> 00:13:58,500
There's a restaurant really
close to the Bunny Ranch.

322
00:13:58,625 --> 00:14:00,707
He would host
teen nights.

323
00:14:00,708 --> 00:14:02,457
He would talk to the girls.

324
00:14:02,458 --> 00:14:03,832
♪

325
00:14:03,833 --> 00:14:05,000
[Brenda] Like,
"You're so pretty.

326
00:14:05,333 --> 00:14:06,874
When you get older, I would
like to have you come

327
00:14:06,875 --> 00:14:09,292
and work for me."

328
00:14:09,417 --> 00:14:11,707
It was grooming,
absolutely, 100%.

329
00:14:11,708 --> 00:14:13,667
Grooming, manipulation.

330
00:14:13,792 --> 00:14:16,750
So, when I first
got onto the

331
00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:18,708
Bunny Ranch website,

332
00:14:18,833 --> 00:14:20,666
I was looking at
all the girls...

333
00:14:20,667 --> 00:14:22,832
and seeing who was there,
and of course,

334
00:14:22,833 --> 00:14:24,957
the famous ones
were there, um...

335
00:14:24,958 --> 00:14:28,624
And then I noticed
their sister brothels,

336
00:14:28,625 --> 00:14:30,666
and I was like,
well, okay, maybe...

337
00:14:30,667 --> 00:14:31,999
I should apply
to one of these.

338
00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,332
I actually applied for
Kit Kat 'cause I'm like,

339
00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,583
the Bunny Ranch is
kind of intimidating.

340
00:14:38,708 --> 00:14:40,457
♪

341
00:14:40,458 --> 00:14:44,416
And on the day that I was
travelling towards Nevada

342
00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:48,832
and the brothels,
I was definitely nervous.

343
00:14:48,833 --> 00:14:51,749
But, more than anything, excited.

344
00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:53,791
But upon, like,

345
00:14:53,792 --> 00:14:56,832
arriving to the
actual location...

346
00:14:56,833 --> 00:15:00,125
at first I was like, wait
a minute, like, we're...

347
00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:01,916
out here in the
boonies, like...

348
00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:04,375
[laughs] you know,
it doesn't look like that

349
00:15:04,542 --> 00:15:06,125
on the show.

350
00:15:06,458 --> 00:15:08,332
♪

351
00:15:08,333 --> 00:15:09,707
When I arrived
at the Bunny Ranch,

352
00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:10,875
it was this little, like,

353
00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,957
almost
trailer-looking house.

354
00:15:12,958 --> 00:15:15,667
And I got there while they
were filming Cathouse.

355
00:15:15,792 --> 00:15:17,041
♪

356
00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:19,333
It was really eerie.

357
00:15:19,458 --> 00:15:22,332
There was all these young
girls there, and I remember...

358
00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:24,332
when they were filming
some scene, it was like,

359
00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:26,499
I remember hearing
the loud footsteps

360
00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:28,457
as they were kind of
running through the halls

361
00:15:28,458 --> 00:15:30,082
playfully with the cameras

362
00:15:30,083 --> 00:15:32,832
and trying to make it out
like it was this playful time.

363
00:15:32,833 --> 00:15:35,082
♪

364
00:15:35,083 --> 00:15:38,832
And I had already been a
prostitute for about

365
00:15:38,833 --> 00:15:41,791
five years when I arrived
at the Bunny Ranch.

366
00:15:41,792 --> 00:15:43,208
So, I knew
that these kids

367
00:15:43,417 --> 00:15:45,707
had no idea
what it's really like.

368
00:15:45,708 --> 00:15:48,666
They had no clue what
prostitution takes out of you.

369
00:15:48,667 --> 00:15:50,124
♪

370
00:15:50,125 --> 00:15:52,749
Your dignity, your worth
as a human being,

371
00:15:52,750 --> 00:15:55,292
your treatment in society.

372
00:15:55,542 --> 00:15:57,542
It is not like Cathouse.

373
00:15:57,708 --> 00:15:59,707
♪

374
00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:03,041
[Dolly] The first time
I met Dennis,

375
00:16:03,042 --> 00:16:05,666
I was like, "Holy [beep],
this really is Dennis."

376
00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:08,124
From, like,
I seen this man on TV.

377
00:16:08,125 --> 00:16:11,166
He welcomes the new
group of the week,

378
00:16:11,167 --> 00:16:14,333
and that's where he does
the rundown of how,

379
00:16:14,458 --> 00:16:17,999
like, money splitting
works, and...

380
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,832
to follow the Bunny Bible,
and don't be disrespectful.

381
00:16:21,833 --> 00:16:24,333
The house rules definitely
made sense to me.

382
00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:26,708
[Bekah] Yeah, I remember
the Bunny Bible.

383
00:16:26,833 --> 00:16:29,042
I remember learning
all these rules.

384
00:16:29,167 --> 00:16:32,416
They definitely try to just
legitimize prostitution and

385
00:16:32,417 --> 00:16:35,917
the brothels, that this is
a normal employee workplace,

386
00:16:36,042 --> 00:16:38,541
like this is HR.

387
00:16:38,542 --> 00:16:40,832
[Amy] The Bunny Bible
was all the rules.

388
00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:42,707
There's always
a lot of rules.

389
00:16:42,708 --> 00:16:44,999
[Alice] Condoms
are required.

390
00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,499
[Shelly] There was
no drugs allowed.

391
00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:51,499
[Amy] You could choose
who you slept with.

392
00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:54,791
Don't do anything
sexual in the parlor.

393
00:16:54,792 --> 00:16:56,791
♪

394
00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:58,417
But the rules didn't
apply to Dennis.

395
00:16:58,583 --> 00:17:00,582
[Dennis] Come on,
girls, light it up.

396
00:17:00,583 --> 00:17:03,041
[Bekah] These rules are
from the perspective of,

397
00:17:03,042 --> 00:17:05,207
this is to keep you safe.

398
00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:08,666
But it felt like just a way
to control all the women.

399
00:17:08,667 --> 00:17:11,041
[Dennis] I'm a businessman
that supplies a place

400
00:17:11,042 --> 00:17:13,292
and an opportunity for
ladies to work,

401
00:17:13,458 --> 00:17:15,124
and we share
the proceeds.

402
00:17:15,125 --> 00:17:18,500
The last thing I am
is, is, is a pimp.

403
00:17:18,625 --> 00:17:21,124
♪

404
00:17:21,125 --> 00:17:24,207
[Bekah] I remember standing
at my first line up.

405
00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:26,542
It was so, so weird.
You know,

406
00:17:26,667 --> 00:17:29,207
the bell rings and you know
that a customer has shown up,

407
00:17:29,208 --> 00:17:31,582
and everybody has to
hurry up and get there

408
00:17:31,583 --> 00:17:35,249
for the lineup so he can
look at each person.

409
00:17:35,250 --> 00:17:38,207
And it was always like a
nerve-wracking experience,

410
00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:40,957
because you're standing
there in a lineup of just

411
00:17:40,958 --> 00:17:43,166
the most beautiful women
on the face of the planet,

412
00:17:43,167 --> 00:17:46,916
<i>AND</i> I am 4'8" and
I have colleagues

413
00:17:46,917 --> 00:17:48,875
that are like 6'2"
and I'm like,

414
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000
head level with
their boobs.

415
00:17:51,125 --> 00:17:52,791
[Dolly] My first lineup,

416
00:17:52,792 --> 00:17:53,833
of course,
I was nervous.

417
00:17:54,208 --> 00:17:56,000
I had no idea, like, would
I even be good at this?

418
00:17:56,125 --> 00:17:59,667
Dennis always said that
sex work empowered women.

419
00:17:59,792 --> 00:18:01,791
The power's in
the negotiation.

420
00:18:01,792 --> 00:18:03,791
♪

421
00:18:03,792 --> 00:18:06,457
[Diana]
You are merchandise.

422
00:18:06,458 --> 00:18:09,707
You negotiate prices
based on...

423
00:18:09,708 --> 00:18:14,124
if I knock my price down $50
and he thinks I'm pretty,

424
00:18:14,125 --> 00:18:16,749
maybe he'll go with me
instead of her.

425
00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:18,875
[Dolly]
The first time...

426
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,207
that I ever did the

427
00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:23,666
full-service sex work, um,

428
00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:26,041
I thought, what if this dude
starts off good,

429
00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,999
but then halfway through
switches up?

430
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,832
Like, what if he attacks?
Men are scary.

431
00:18:30,833 --> 00:18:32,916
It was like, oh,
this job is gonna be

432
00:18:32,917 --> 00:18:35,875
a little harder than
I thought.

433
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,957
♪

434
00:18:38,958 --> 00:18:40,707
I learned
very quickly,

435
00:18:40,708 --> 00:18:42,249
in this line of work,

436
00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:44,874
they really don't give a
[beep] what you look like

437
00:18:44,875 --> 00:18:46,999
as long as you're
blonde and white.

438
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,667
So, that was very
disheartening,

439
00:18:49,792 --> 00:18:51,667
and it was very difficult

440
00:18:51,792 --> 00:18:54,124
for me to make
money at first.

441
00:18:54,125 --> 00:18:57,166
[Taina] What Cathouse
doesn't say is that

442
00:18:57,167 --> 00:19:00,957
it's much easier to get in
than it is to get out.

443
00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,750
It's very, very
hard to get out.

444
00:19:07,333 --> 00:19:11,332
Prostitution is not a
common job like any other.

445
00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:15,166
Having some hot, sweaty dude
hunching over you

446
00:19:15,167 --> 00:19:17,042
and trying to get
whatever rape fantasy

447
00:19:17,167 --> 00:19:20,082
he has in his mind played
out by choking you,

448
00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:22,999
or whatever position
that his wife won't do.

449
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,999
This is access
to your body...

450
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,166
to your soul.

451
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:31,291
There's no work that,
that takes out of you

452
00:19:31,292 --> 00:19:33,791
what prostitution
takes out of you.

453
00:19:33,792 --> 00:19:37,333
♪ [suspenseful]

454
00:19:37,458 --> 00:19:40,332
♪

455
00:19:40,333 --> 00:19:42,666
Look...

456
00:19:42,667 --> 00:19:46,875
Dennis' world was buying
and selling people.

457
00:19:47,042 --> 00:19:48,833
♪

458
00:19:48,958 --> 00:19:50,833
[Bekah] Dennis traded
human bodies

459
00:19:50,958 --> 00:19:53,207
just like he would
have a used car.

460
00:19:53,208 --> 00:19:56,166
You are a product that
is to be bought and used,

461
00:19:56,167 --> 00:19:58,249
and then discarded.

462
00:19:58,250 --> 00:20:01,291
And women are
just commodities.

463
00:20:01,292 --> 00:20:02,916
[Dennis] People are working,
developing new product

464
00:20:02,917 --> 00:20:05,208
for me right now in the back
seat of a car somewhere,

465
00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:06,500
because 18 years
from now

466
00:20:06,625 --> 00:20:09,207
they'll be coming
to work for me.

467
00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,666
[Racquel] Dennis Hof took

468
00:20:10,667 --> 00:20:14,291
whatever rules he used in
his timeshare practice

469
00:20:14,292 --> 00:20:16,999
to prostitution in Cathouse.

470
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,124
You see every single one
of these rules in practice.

471
00:20:20,125 --> 00:20:21,625
[Dennis] It's the
customer's job

472
00:20:21,875 --> 00:20:24,332
to get you to
do this free...

473
00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:26,375
or for very small money.

474
00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,958
It's your job to take
their house,

475
00:20:29,083 --> 00:20:31,875
and their car,
and their 401K plan.

476
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,332
Now, somewhere in
the middle,

477
00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:35,375
you got a happy buyer
and a happy seller.

478
00:20:35,542 --> 00:20:37,667
♪

479
00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:39,374
[Racquel] It's really
important to note that

480
00:20:39,375 --> 00:20:41,542
when Dennis is giving
the women advice on

481
00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,082
how to negotiate
higher rates,

482
00:20:43,083 --> 00:20:45,332
that it also is
self-serving because...

483
00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:47,417
the brothel has
a 50/50 split,

484
00:20:47,542 --> 00:20:49,333
meaning that the
house gets 50%,

485
00:20:49,458 --> 00:20:51,124
and the women
get 50%.

486
00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:53,166
But the women don't
even take home 50%

487
00:20:53,167 --> 00:20:55,124
because they also have
to pay for supplies.

488
00:20:55,125 --> 00:20:57,208
♪

489
00:20:57,333 --> 00:20:59,625
[Dolly] Dennis does the
rundown of how we split it.

490
00:20:59,875 --> 00:21:01,249
He was doing the 50/50.

491
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:02,832
And I was like,
okay, that's fine.

492
00:21:02,833 --> 00:21:06,332
And then he said, "Oh,
well, that includes tips."

493
00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:08,499
And I'm like...
That's horse [beep].

494
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,416
And then, he's like,
"That includes gifts."

495
00:21:11,417 --> 00:21:14,749
So, he had a girl
split a car

496
00:21:14,750 --> 00:21:16,791
that one of her clients
gave her...

497
00:21:16,792 --> 00:21:20,666
made her, like, pay out
the other half of the car.

498
00:21:20,667 --> 00:21:23,207
And I'm over here like,
why did you tell him?

499
00:21:23,208 --> 00:21:25,750
[laughing]
Why did you tell him?

500
00:21:25,875 --> 00:21:27,416
♪

501
00:21:27,417 --> 00:21:29,250
[DeAnne] They booked
$1,000 maybe...

502
00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:30,458
on a good day.

503
00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:34,332
When they got paid out,
the brothel took their 500.

504
00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:37,208
Now from the girl's 500,
they're given a card

505
00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:39,374
that shows all the money
that was deducted.

506
00:21:39,375 --> 00:21:41,374
[Bekah] They don't explain
that your room and board

507
00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:45,416
is gonna be coming out of
your 50% of the money.

508
00:21:45,417 --> 00:21:48,042
[DeAnne] $45 a day,
seven days a week.

509
00:21:48,167 --> 00:21:50,207
♪

510
00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:51,832
[Bekah] So is
all your supplies.

511
00:21:51,833 --> 00:21:53,124
♪

512
00:21:53,125 --> 00:21:54,833
We had to buy
our clothing.

513
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,916
We had to buy
the condoms.

514
00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:58,124
♪

515
00:21:58,125 --> 00:22:00,249
[Diana] Get our hair and
our makeup done.

516
00:22:00,250 --> 00:22:01,250
[Shelly] We had
to buy the lube.

517
00:22:01,375 --> 00:22:02,916
We had to buy
the sex toys.

518
00:22:02,917 --> 00:22:04,917
♪

519
00:22:05,042 --> 00:22:06,875
[Alice] Pay the
photographer.

520
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,957
♪

521
00:22:07,958 --> 00:22:09,833
$80 for the sheriff card.

522
00:22:09,958 --> 00:22:12,166
[DeAnne] You have to pay if
you want to do your laundry,

523
00:22:12,167 --> 00:22:14,166
you need to tip
the housekeeper.

524
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:15,917
You need to tip the staff.

525
00:22:16,042 --> 00:22:18,000
The cashier expects a tip.

526
00:22:18,125 --> 00:22:19,250
♪

527
00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:22,417
Everybody's got
their hands in that money.

528
00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:25,374
[Bekah] They take as
much money as possible.

529
00:22:25,375 --> 00:22:28,417
Your little 50% just
basically dwindles down.

530
00:22:28,542 --> 00:22:30,791
♪

531
00:22:30,792 --> 00:22:32,291
[DeAnne] And that
was the norm.

532
00:22:32,292 --> 00:22:33,833
And you would
sit there at the cashier

533
00:22:34,042 --> 00:22:35,207
when the
money came in,

534
00:22:35,208 --> 00:22:37,416
and you would hear
over and over again,

535
00:22:37,417 --> 00:22:39,499
"Is that all I've got?"

536
00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,332
[Diana] You could go
days without

537
00:22:41,333 --> 00:22:43,957
having a client.

538
00:22:43,958 --> 00:22:47,957
But the tab grew,
and it grew, and it grew,

539
00:22:47,958 --> 00:22:49,708
and you become...

540
00:22:49,875 --> 00:22:52,374
constantly trying
to pay off your tab.

541
00:22:52,375 --> 00:22:54,499
That's why it was
called debt bondage.

542
00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:58,000
♪

543
00:22:58,167 --> 00:23:00,124
[Bekah] There are
many girls there

544
00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:01,958
that are falling in debt.

545
00:23:02,083 --> 00:23:04,332
And that's a position you
don't ever want to be in

546
00:23:04,333 --> 00:23:05,999
at the brothel.

547
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,624
♪

548
00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:10,374
That means that whenever
a customer finally does

549
00:23:10,375 --> 00:23:12,666
pick them, they have to
do whatever he wants,

550
00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:15,000
no matter if they
want to or not.

551
00:23:15,125 --> 00:23:18,583
♪

552
00:23:18,708 --> 00:23:21,457
The brothel is designed
to make money for

553
00:23:21,458 --> 00:23:24,000
the pimp, for the house.

554
00:23:24,125 --> 00:23:26,957
It's not at all in favor of

555
00:23:26,958 --> 00:23:29,207
the women that work there.

556
00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:32,832
And the brothel
owner always wins.

557
00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:35,291
[DeAnne] I saw women
come into the brothel

558
00:23:35,292 --> 00:23:37,124
and they had a certain
set of boundaries.

559
00:23:37,125 --> 00:23:41,208
For instance, they didn't do
certain types of sex acts.

560
00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,083
But as they became more
and more desperate

561
00:23:43,208 --> 00:23:44,457
and they needed money,

562
00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:47,416
their personal
boundaries changed.

563
00:23:47,417 --> 00:23:48,916
Suddenly they were
doing things

564
00:23:48,917 --> 00:23:51,374
that they didn't
feel right about.

565
00:23:51,375 --> 00:23:55,707
They lost themselves.

566
00:23:55,708 --> 00:23:58,457
When you're desperate,
you don't have a choice.

567
00:23:58,458 --> 00:24:01,124
You're gonna do what
you can to survive.

568
00:24:01,125 --> 00:24:03,332
♪

569
00:24:03,333 --> 00:24:05,500
And that's not
empowerment at all.

570
00:24:09,625 --> 00:24:10,625
♪

571
00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:14,082
I learned very quickly that
it wasn't like the show...

572
00:24:14,083 --> 00:24:16,374
that a lot of the men that
would come through there

573
00:24:16,375 --> 00:24:18,499
were very racist.

574
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:19,999
And I was like, oh, no,

575
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,541
I should totally be
making more money,

576
00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:23,457
but I know
why I'm not.

577
00:24:23,458 --> 00:24:24,957
It made me angry.
And then,

578
00:24:24,958 --> 00:24:27,332
I just started
talking [beep] to the men,

579
00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:29,375
and they'd be like,
"Alright! Sold!"

580
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:32,416
It was weird. I had to be
mean to get bookings.

581
00:24:32,417 --> 00:24:34,416
The meaner I was to them,

582
00:24:34,417 --> 00:24:36,417
the more they booked.

583
00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:38,499
Because it's like
they wanted to see...

584
00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:42,042
a brown girl get
riled up or something.

585
00:24:42,167 --> 00:24:44,541
It just sucked again that
I had to work harder

586
00:24:44,542 --> 00:24:46,582
than I should have.
And meanwhile,

587
00:24:46,583 --> 00:24:48,374
you could see the
white women walk out

588
00:24:48,375 --> 00:24:50,999
with just their PJs
and get picked.

589
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,749
The reality isn't
the same as the show.

590
00:24:54,750 --> 00:24:56,582
[chanting] HBO,
the network pimp.

591
00:24:56,583 --> 00:24:59,167
HBO,
you've hit a new low!

592
00:24:59,292 --> 00:25:01,500
Cathouse has got to go!

593
00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:04,541
[Taina] So, when Cathouse
first was being aired,

594
00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:08,000
we decided to protest HBO.

595
00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:10,332
HBO,
the network pimp!

596
00:25:10,333 --> 00:25:12,291
[Taina] The protest
was in front of

597
00:25:12,292 --> 00:25:14,832
HBO headquarters
in Manhattan.

598
00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,791
[Taina at protest]
It is absolutely critical

599
00:25:16,792 --> 00:25:19,666
that HBO take a
very close look

600
00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:22,416
at the types
of programs they...

601
00:25:22,417 --> 00:25:24,332
put on the air
that actually degrades

602
00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:26,707
and objectifies
women and girls.

603
00:25:26,708 --> 00:25:29,250
I just remember people
walking by like

604
00:25:29,375 --> 00:25:31,542
they didn't quite
understand, like,

605
00:25:31,667 --> 00:25:34,457
why we were protesting,
or what, what,

606
00:25:34,458 --> 00:25:37,707
sort of, what the problem
was with Cathouse.

607
00:25:37,708 --> 00:25:39,624
Like, what are
they talking about?

608
00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:43,707
So, it was the only way to
raise awareness about abuse

609
00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:46,624
and what the impact of
mainstreaming violence

610
00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:50,417
does to human beings,
especially women and girls.

611
00:25:50,542 --> 00:25:53,374
The show was mainly
produced by women,

612
00:25:53,375 --> 00:25:56,333
that is, Sheila Nevins
was at the top and,

613
00:25:56,458 --> 00:25:59,292
and everybody under Sheila
on the HBO side

614
00:25:59,417 --> 00:26:01,832
were all women.
And Patti Kaplan,

615
00:26:01,833 --> 00:26:03,457
who was the...

616
00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:05,624
director-producer
of the show.

617
00:26:05,625 --> 00:26:07,749
[Host] The New York Post
gave you a bad review.

618
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:10,416
They said, "This is a bad
infomercial for hookers."

619
00:26:10,417 --> 00:26:11,874
They say it's not
journalistic,

620
00:26:11,875 --> 00:26:12,792
it's trite,
it's phoney.

621
00:26:13,042 --> 00:26:15,582
Maybe even more damning,
they say it's boring.

622
00:26:15,583 --> 00:26:17,708
Were you trying to do
sort of a journalistic-

623
00:26:17,833 --> 00:26:20,000
[Patti] It's so,
so not boring.

624
00:26:20,208 --> 00:26:22,333
[Host] Right there we see a
business transaction.

625
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,374
I mean, the guy looks like
he's ordering

626
00:26:23,375 --> 00:26:24,541
off the menu
at McDonald's.

627
00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:25,499
[Patti] It's something
nobody's seen.

628
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:26,625
Nobody's seen.

629
00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:29,333
And only HBO can do
this kind of a program.

630
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:33,208
[Protester] Why is
Sheila Nevins of HBO...

631
00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:35,166
leading this culture

632
00:26:35,167 --> 00:26:38,083
in her network?

633
00:26:38,208 --> 00:26:42,499
Can someone please call
Sheila Nevins down here now?

634
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:45,791
Sheila! Can you
hear me, Sheila?

635
00:26:45,792 --> 00:26:47,500
Can you come
down here?

636
00:26:47,625 --> 00:26:49,666
There's a few people
that want to talk to you.

637
00:26:49,667 --> 00:26:52,167
We want to know why...

638
00:26:52,375 --> 00:26:54,167
you think this is the way

639
00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:56,667
to build a
successful network.

640
00:26:56,792 --> 00:26:59,874
[Taina] The people who make
money from the sex trade,

641
00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:02,166
they are unbelievable
marketers.

642
00:27:02,167 --> 00:27:04,624
They wanted prostitution
to be mainstreamed.

643
00:27:04,625 --> 00:27:07,332
They want it to be normalized.

644
00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:09,666
And Mr. Pimp Dennis Hof,

645
00:27:09,667 --> 00:27:13,666
the ultimate marketer,
tried to do that.

646
00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:15,666
[Dennis] Hello. Thank you
for having me here

647
00:27:15,667 --> 00:27:17,832
at the world's
oldest university

648
00:27:17,833 --> 00:27:20,292
to discuss the
world's oldest profession.

649
00:27:20,417 --> 00:27:21,707
Prostitution.

650
00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:23,791
[Taina]
"It's the oldest profession"?

651
00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:25,750
That's a slogan.
It means nothing.

652
00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:28,666
It's the oldest
form of oppression.

653
00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:29,666
[Dennis] You know what
the exploitation is?

654
00:27:29,667 --> 00:27:31,666
The exploitation
is on us men,

655
00:27:31,667 --> 00:27:35,167
who don't get enough
variety, quality,

656
00:27:35,375 --> 00:27:36,707
or type of sex
that we want.

657
00:27:36,708 --> 00:27:38,708
[laughing and applauding]

658
00:27:38,833 --> 00:27:41,874
That's exploitation!

659
00:27:41,875 --> 00:27:47,541
♪

660
00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:48,750
[Bekah] I was a
high school dropout.

661
00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:50,874
And, I mean,
I was homeless.

662
00:27:50,875 --> 00:27:54,624
And so I was forced into
prostitution at 17 years old.

663
00:27:54,625 --> 00:27:57,167
My pimp had forced me to
get a fake identification

664
00:27:57,333 --> 00:27:59,707
that showed me as older.

665
00:27:59,708 --> 00:28:01,707
The reason I went to
the Bunny Ranch

666
00:28:01,708 --> 00:28:03,916
was because I had
another pimp.

667
00:28:03,917 --> 00:28:06,582
I was forced to go work
at the Bunny Ranch

668
00:28:06,583 --> 00:28:08,333
because my pimp
would send us there,

669
00:28:08,458 --> 00:28:09,582
if we were getting
arrested too much

670
00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:10,749
in Las Vegas and our
face was getting

671
00:28:10,750 --> 00:28:12,624
too known by the vice.

672
00:28:12,625 --> 00:28:15,499
I was being pimped out
by one man to be

673
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:19,416
pimped out by another man,
Dennis Hof.

674
00:28:19,417 --> 00:28:20,667
I had
firsthand knowledge of

675
00:28:20,792 --> 00:28:22,916
Dennis and Suzette
working with pimps

676
00:28:22,917 --> 00:28:25,291
who supplied them
with women.

677
00:28:25,292 --> 00:28:27,874
If a pimp has a reputation
of having very well-trained

678
00:28:27,875 --> 00:28:31,208
women who aren't a problem,
they're probably the best

679
00:28:31,333 --> 00:28:33,583
working girls, are some
of the ones with pimps.

680
00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:35,417
They're terrified,
they're controlled.

681
00:28:35,542 --> 00:28:36,832
They've been trained.

682
00:28:36,833 --> 00:28:38,582
They've been
indoctrinated.

683
00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:41,375
That's a lot less work
for the brothel.

684
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,916
[Bekah] Suzette and
Dennis both knew

685
00:28:43,917 --> 00:28:45,707
all the girls that were
being trafficked

686
00:28:45,708 --> 00:28:48,500
that had pimps
outside of the brothel.

687
00:28:48,625 --> 00:28:50,250
You know the girls that
are getting beaten?

688
00:28:50,417 --> 00:28:53,707
I mean, the branding that
we would have, you know,

689
00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:56,624
we would have the
same matching tattoos.

690
00:28:56,625 --> 00:28:58,874
It was my pimp,
his initials.

691
00:28:58,875 --> 00:29:00,583
That's where all of
our brands were,

692
00:29:00,708 --> 00:29:01,999
was on the
back of our neck.

693
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,041
So I wound up covering
that with a big tree.

694
00:29:05,042 --> 00:29:07,916
They didn't care about
my situation at all.

695
00:29:07,917 --> 00:29:10,624
All they cared about was,
was I performing?

696
00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:12,832
I never felt like there
was somebody that

697
00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:14,999
I could have
said anything to.

698
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,333
It just felt like
no one cared.

699
00:29:17,458 --> 00:29:20,749
[Dolly] Management did not
care if you were being

700
00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:24,624
called some type
of slur, but if...

701
00:29:24,625 --> 00:29:27,999
one of the black
or brown girls...

702
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,291
said anything to hurt one
of the little white girl's

703
00:29:30,292 --> 00:29:32,916
feelings, like, we were
seen as the aggressor,

704
00:29:32,917 --> 00:29:35,624
and we would immediately
get us a talking to

705
00:29:35,625 --> 00:29:37,874
in the office.

706
00:29:37,875 --> 00:29:39,666
That's where
it was like...

707
00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:41,750
this is brutal
out here.

708
00:29:42,875 --> 00:29:44,832
[Dennis]
Our system is flawless.

709
00:29:44,833 --> 00:29:46,833
We just don't have
any problems.

710
00:29:46,958 --> 00:29:49,707
And that's why we don't have
any underage girls in here.

711
00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:51,874
[Bekah] The brothels
try to say like, oh, well,

712
00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:53,916
there's no trafficking that
takes place in brothels.

713
00:29:53,917 --> 00:29:57,874
That is simply not true.

714
00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:00,082
When I had to go to the local
sheriff's office to get

715
00:30:00,083 --> 00:30:03,000
your local sheriff's card to
work at the Bunny Ranch,

716
00:30:03,125 --> 00:30:06,499
I had my fake social security
number, my fake address,

717
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,666
my fake birthday,
my fake name.

718
00:30:08,667 --> 00:30:11,166
And here I was in this
state licensing agency

719
00:30:11,167 --> 00:30:14,707
getting a work card to go
work for this legal pimp.

720
00:30:14,708 --> 00:30:17,707
The whole system just
encouraged itself.

721
00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:20,041
♪

722
00:30:20,042 --> 00:30:22,957
I was constantly checking in
with my pimp over the phone,

723
00:30:22,958 --> 00:30:25,791
via text message,
letting him know, kind of,

724
00:30:25,792 --> 00:30:27,791
how much money I had.

725
00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:29,708
And he would tell me
I needed to go put

726
00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:32,832
X amount of money
in the bank.

727
00:30:32,833 --> 00:30:35,000
It felt like I was kind of
free for a moment.

728
00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:38,542
♪

729
00:30:38,667 --> 00:30:41,417
♪

730
00:30:41,542 --> 00:30:44,082
I almost felt like I was back
to being normal, in a way,

731
00:30:44,083 --> 00:30:46,500
that I was able to
drive my own car

732
00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:48,500
and go and do something.

733
00:30:48,708 --> 00:30:50,666
♪

734
00:30:50,667 --> 00:30:52,791
But then, I had
to go right back.

735
00:30:52,792 --> 00:30:54,999
I had to turn around and

736
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,999
go right back in
through the gates.

737
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
And that is the
moment I realized

738
00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:01,916
that while I was
at the Bunny Ranch,

739
00:31:01,917 --> 00:31:04,292
I gave Dennis Hof
50% of the money,

740
00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:07,458
and I gave my other pimp
50% of the money.

741
00:31:07,583 --> 00:31:11,958
I was literally having sex
with strangers for nothing.

742
00:31:19,167 --> 00:31:22,082
Dennis was notorious
for just partying,

743
00:31:22,083 --> 00:31:24,082
which meant have sex with
whoever he wanted

744
00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:26,916
and not giving them
any money.

745
00:31:26,917 --> 00:31:28,749
My pimp told me that

746
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:30,374
if he ever tried to
party with me,

747
00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:33,666
to just stay as far away
from him as I could,

748
00:31:33,667 --> 00:31:35,749
because of course,
he wasn't gonna let me

749
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:37,791
free [beep] someone, right?

750
00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:40,666
So I knew anytime Dennis
was around in the parlor

751
00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:44,124
or wherever, I would try to
kind of stay away from him.

752
00:31:44,125 --> 00:31:47,166
[Dolly] I'm sure Dennis is
very capable of assault

753
00:31:47,167 --> 00:31:50,832
'cause he is a man
who's rarely told no.

754
00:31:50,833 --> 00:31:54,166
He definitely is a predator.

755
00:31:54,167 --> 00:31:57,625
He just knew
who he could, like,

756
00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:00,166
coerce and who
he can manipulate.

757
00:32:00,167 --> 00:32:01,958
He could be a real
piece of [beep]

758
00:32:04,708 --> 00:32:06,166
[Dolly] Oh, yeah, absolutely.

759
00:32:06,167 --> 00:32:09,333
The last one was at
his birthday party.

760
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,000
He expected me to have
like a threesome

761
00:32:11,125 --> 00:32:12,999
with him
and this other girl.

762
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,124
I went to go say happy
birthday, and he's like,

763
00:32:15,125 --> 00:32:17,124
"Hey, would you be down
for a threesome?"

764
00:32:17,125 --> 00:32:18,667
And I was like,
"Am I getting paid?"

765
00:32:18,792 --> 00:32:21,082
And he's like,
"No, it's my birthday."

766
00:32:21,083 --> 00:32:23,916
And I was like,
hm, like, no. [laughs]

767
00:32:23,917 --> 00:32:25,916
Dennis was intimidating.

768
00:32:25,917 --> 00:32:27,916
You can never
trust these dudes,

769
00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:29,874
but I've never
been a fool.

770
00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:33,082
I'm like, money first.
[laughs] Money first.

771
00:32:33,083 --> 00:32:35,666
[Bekah] I saw the absolute
worst of humanity

772
00:32:35,667 --> 00:32:37,499
as a prostitute.

773
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:39,832
My pimp taught us how to
protect ourselves

774
00:32:39,833 --> 00:32:42,832
because violence
is so common.

775
00:32:42,833 --> 00:32:44,999
If you don't perform,
if you don't do

776
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,041
exactly what they want,
they fly into a rage.

777
00:32:48,042 --> 00:32:50,750
They become violent.

778
00:32:50,875 --> 00:32:52,832
Around the time
that I was there,

779
00:32:52,833 --> 00:32:54,333
Vince Neil from Motley Crue

780
00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:56,583
came to visit Dennis
at the brothel.

781
00:33:00,708 --> 00:33:03,082
Filed by an Andrea Terry,

782
00:33:03,083 --> 00:33:05,249
about what happened to her.

783
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,500
[Rebekah reading]
"He tried to get me

784
00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:07,999
to touch his penis.

785
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,999
I reminded him that
we had to pay before

786
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,791
any sexual acts
could take place.

787
00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:14,832
With such a rage
in his eyes,

788
00:33:14,833 --> 00:33:16,957
he grabbed me by the throat

789
00:33:16,958 --> 00:33:18,916
and pushed me against
the window frame,

790
00:33:18,917 --> 00:33:20,999
holding me there,
yelling at me,

791
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,500
then yanked me down
towards the bed.

792
00:33:23,625 --> 00:33:26,208
He was more angry than
I've ever seen someone."

793
00:33:26,333 --> 00:33:31,583
♪

794
00:33:31,708 --> 00:33:34,291
[Bekah] What offends me
the most about this story

795
00:33:34,292 --> 00:33:37,166
is that instead of Dennis
kicking Vince Neil out

796
00:33:37,167 --> 00:33:40,500
for assaulting
one of his employees,

797
00:33:40,708 --> 00:33:42,166
he took him to the bar,

798
00:33:42,167 --> 00:33:43,333
bought him another drink,

799
00:33:43,625 --> 00:33:46,749
and then paid for him to
party with some other girl.

800
00:33:46,750 --> 00:33:48,999
I mean, they...

801
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,166
they don't protect you.

802
00:33:52,167 --> 00:33:55,207
In the end, the police
actually charged Vince Neil,

803
00:33:55,208 --> 00:33:57,166
and he pleaded no contest.

804
00:33:57,167 --> 00:34:00,207
But if the Bunny Ranch
and Dennis Hof

805
00:34:00,208 --> 00:34:03,249
had their way, no one
would have ever known.

806
00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:06,999
♪

807
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,916
[Dolly] I hadn't booked
in like two weeks.

808
00:34:09,917 --> 00:34:11,582
Two or three weeks,
and...

809
00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:13,082
you still have to
pay room and board,

810
00:34:13,083 --> 00:34:15,707
even if you're
not booking.

811
00:34:15,708 --> 00:34:17,166
That was just
adding up.

812
00:34:17,167 --> 00:34:19,207
And, I was like, I know
this is not my fault

813
00:34:19,208 --> 00:34:21,874
because my regulars
are still coming.

814
00:34:21,875 --> 00:34:24,207
But, no new bookings?
No- What?

815
00:34:24,208 --> 00:34:27,542
Like,
something's happening.

816
00:34:27,792 --> 00:34:31,374
So, I noticed emails.

817
00:34:31,375 --> 00:34:34,041
A bunch of emails,
client emails in my inbox,

818
00:34:34,042 --> 00:34:35,332
and I was like,
oh, great!

819
00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:39,166
I go to refresh,
they're gone.

820
00:34:39,167 --> 00:34:40,582
They're gone.

821
00:34:40,583 --> 00:34:45,375
I caught my emails
being rerouted, but...

822
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,374
now I was like,
I'm gonna be a target.

823
00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:50,999
The big difference I did
see between Cathouse

824
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,624
and the reality
of it is that...

825
00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:56,041
the women don't have
your back all the time.

826
00:34:56,042 --> 00:34:59,916
It isn't this big sorority.

827
00:34:59,917 --> 00:35:02,166
It's very manipulative...

828
00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:04,874
conniving, and...

829
00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:07,124
we had to fight harder,
I mean,

830
00:35:07,125 --> 00:35:10,082
the Women of Color
had to fight harder when...

831
00:35:10,083 --> 00:35:12,291
somebody was messing
with our money.

832
00:35:12,292 --> 00:35:15,666
♪

833
00:35:15,667 --> 00:35:17,542
[Bekah] Every time
I needed to go into town,

834
00:35:17,708 --> 00:35:21,249
I had to talk to Suzette and
have to ask permission

835
00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:23,207
to be able to leave
my workplace,

836
00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,999
like I didn't have control
over my own movement.

837
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,041
And I remember having to
argue with Suzette

838
00:35:29,042 --> 00:35:31,332
for just being able to
leave the premises.

839
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:35,957
♪

840
00:35:35,958 --> 00:35:38,166
[Taina] The Bunny Ranch
is a fortress.

841
00:35:38,167 --> 00:35:39,542
[gate buzzing]

842
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:42,332
You cannot go in without
being buzzed in.

843
00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:45,332
You cannot leave without
being buzzed out.

844
00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:47,041
[Bekah] You have
multiple gates.

845
00:35:47,042 --> 00:35:49,999
There's security cameras.

846
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,374
I saw numerous times
that girls would be

847
00:35:52,375 --> 00:35:54,999
on the phone trying to
borrow from other girls,

848
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,541
trying to get money for
a ticket out of there,

849
00:35:57,542 --> 00:35:59,833
sometimes they didn't even
have cash to pay a driver

850
00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:02,041
to take them
to the airport.

851
00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:04,291
[Bekah] If you do owe
money to the brothel,

852
00:36:04,292 --> 00:36:06,166
you can't just
walk away.

853
00:36:06,167 --> 00:36:07,499
You can't just say,
"You know what?

854
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,332
I'm gonna call a cab
and I'm gonna leave,"

855
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:12,999
like that,
that's not possible.

856
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,250
People try to say
it's a regular job.

857
00:36:15,375 --> 00:36:17,291
Who doesn't
leave their job?

858
00:36:17,292 --> 00:36:22,791
♪ [somber piano]

859
00:36:22,792 --> 00:36:24,957
♪

860
00:36:24,958 --> 00:36:27,249
You're literally
there 24/7.

861
00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:29,291
That,
that's not normal.

862
00:36:29,292 --> 00:36:31,957
It's like they're being
kept in captivity.

863
00:36:31,958 --> 00:36:39,333
♪

864
00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:41,499
[Dennis] This is an
opportunity for you either

865
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,833
to make a lot of money
in 4 or 5 years,

866
00:36:44,958 --> 00:36:46,667
invest it properly,

867
00:36:46,792 --> 00:36:48,999
and never have to work
another day in your life.

868
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,291
Or, to make a good
amount of money

869
00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:52,917
in a short period
of time every month

870
00:36:53,042 --> 00:36:54,332
so you can be
with your kids,

871
00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:56,499
you can work on your
writing or acting career,

872
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:58,499
or your studies.

873
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:01,166
I get a lot of girls that are
paying off their school loans.

874
00:37:01,167 --> 00:37:04,499
[Taina] It's a myth that
there'd be a lot of...

875
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,875
millionaires of, of
women in prostitution.

876
00:37:08,042 --> 00:37:10,416
The minute they
leave prostitution,

877
00:37:10,417 --> 00:37:12,541
they are in abject poverty,

878
00:37:12,542 --> 00:37:14,416
and it's very, very
difficult for them to

879
00:37:14,417 --> 00:37:18,332
rebuild their lives without
extensive medical,

880
00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:21,625
psychological,
psychiatric assistance.

881
00:37:21,833 --> 00:37:23,750
♪

882
00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:25,332
[Dolly] It started getting
a little rougher,

883
00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:28,749
and very unfair, and...

884
00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:30,582
having quite a few
debacles with, like,

885
00:37:30,583 --> 00:37:32,999
racist girls...

886
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,249
in the house,
and racist clients.

887
00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:37,750
It was no longer safe.

888
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:46,249
♪

889
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:48,124
The women
who had no family,

890
00:37:48,125 --> 00:37:49,333
who had no one
to help them,

891
00:37:49,458 --> 00:37:51,416
they got
stuck there.

892
00:37:51,417 --> 00:37:53,791
The women who could
get out of the brothel

893
00:37:53,792 --> 00:37:55,999
got out of the brothel
with their own money,

894
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,083
or have family
get them out,

895
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:59,042
or a pimp would
pull them out.

896
00:37:59,167 --> 00:38:00,999
♪

897
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,332
[Bekah] My pimp finally
let me come back to Vegas...

898
00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:06,416
when he felt like he had
punished me enough.

899
00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:09,291
When he had taught me
a lesson that

900
00:38:09,292 --> 00:38:11,000
I better be smarter out
there in the streets

901
00:38:11,125 --> 00:38:13,166
and stop getting
arrested.

902
00:38:13,167 --> 00:38:14,832
I felt relieved.

903
00:38:14,833 --> 00:38:17,499
Even though I was gonna
stay in prostitution,

904
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:21,249
I didn't want to be at the
brothel anymore, and...

905
00:38:21,250 --> 00:38:23,000
I remember packing
my stuff up

906
00:38:23,125 --> 00:38:24,916
and getting in
my little car,

907
00:38:24,917 --> 00:38:28,499
and I put the Bunny Ranch
in my rear view mirror.

908
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:31,207
My pimp, as horrible
as he was,

909
00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:33,042
at least let me
leave that prison.

910
00:38:33,167 --> 00:38:36,333
♪

911
00:38:36,458 --> 00:38:38,832
I wasn't able to get away
from my pimp until the

912
00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:41,624
federal authorities
finally became involved.

913
00:38:41,625 --> 00:38:43,541
He was racking up credit
card debt in my name,

914
00:38:43,542 --> 00:38:46,042
so I had about $50,000 of
credit card debt.

915
00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:47,999
I had a $600,000 home
in my name

916
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000
that got foreclosed.

917
00:38:49,375 --> 00:38:51,917
I had two $80,000 cars
that got repossessed.

918
00:38:52,042 --> 00:38:54,499
They arrested me and they
thought maybe I would snitch,

919
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:57,457
but because I was too afraid
to testify against him,

920
00:38:57,458 --> 00:39:00,291
I wound up
taking a charge...

921
00:39:00,292 --> 00:39:03,166
and serving 13 months
in federal prison

922
00:39:03,167 --> 00:39:06,624
for conspiracy to
commit tax evasion.

923
00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:09,416
I served my 13 months
in prison, and so...

924
00:39:09,417 --> 00:39:13,167
I moved back to Texas
January 7th of 2012 and...

925
00:39:13,292 --> 00:39:14,624
started my life over.

926
00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:16,291
I wound up going
back to school.

927
00:39:16,292 --> 00:39:18,332
Lo and behold,
I'm actually pretty smart.

928
00:39:18,333 --> 00:39:19,582
I wound up getting my
master's degree in

929
00:39:19,583 --> 00:39:22,457
criminology and
criminal justice.

930
00:39:22,458 --> 00:39:25,666
In 2013, I launched
Bekah Speaks Out.

931
00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:27,582
I train
law enforcement officers,

932
00:39:27,583 --> 00:39:30,374
social workers, nurses,
across the country

933
00:39:30,375 --> 00:39:32,500
on human trafficking
education.

934
00:39:32,625 --> 00:39:34,374
My name's
Bekah Charleston.

935
00:39:34,375 --> 00:39:35,750
I spent some time working at

936
00:39:35,875 --> 00:39:38,332
the Moonlite Bunny Ranch
for Dennis Hof,

937
00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:39,707
and they like to claim
that that prevents

938
00:39:39,708 --> 00:39:42,666
trafficking from happening,
but it doesn't.

939
00:39:42,667 --> 00:39:45,833
And then one day, I remember
I was out at dinner at

940
00:39:45,958 --> 00:39:48,499
a work event and CBS
called me on my phone.

941
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,416
It hasn't really
sunk in yet.

942
00:39:50,417 --> 00:39:53,374
[News] Bekah Charleston says
receiving a full pardon

943
00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:56,166
from President
Donald Trump is a gift.

944
00:39:56,167 --> 00:39:58,249
[Bekah] And so,
to finally have it happen

945
00:39:58,250 --> 00:40:01,250
the day before Christmas Eve
is just surreal.

946
00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:03,916
And now, I have a
shiny piece of paper

947
00:40:03,917 --> 00:40:05,833
that the president signed
that says he forgives me

948
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,249
for being a victim of
human trafficking.

949
00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:11,541
Honestly, it takes so much
strength to be

950
00:40:11,542 --> 00:40:15,416
vulnerable enough to begin
the healing process.

951
00:40:15,417 --> 00:40:18,042
It's a really hard shift
that a lot of people

952
00:40:18,167 --> 00:40:20,166
are never
able to make.

953
00:40:20,167 --> 00:40:21,542
[Dolly] You know,
Dennis Hof,

954
00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:26,249
he has definitely
gained financial...

955
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:29,457
power and control
off of, like,

956
00:40:29,458 --> 00:40:31,416
women's
autonomy and...

957
00:40:31,417 --> 00:40:33,791
our labour, our...

958
00:40:33,792 --> 00:40:38,250
and let's be-
our talents to maintain...

959
00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:39,500
like, clients.

960
00:40:39,625 --> 00:40:41,500
You need to have
personality.

961
00:40:41,625 --> 00:40:44,582
There's a reason why
there's returning clients.

962
00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:47,000
He thinks that it's all
'cause of him.

963
00:40:47,167 --> 00:40:52,291
♪

964
00:40:52,292 --> 00:40:54,667
I finally...

965
00:40:54,792 --> 00:40:56,541
started...

966
00:40:56,542 --> 00:40:59,957
[sighing] to detach
from the brothels

967
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:02,457
because they were
messing with my money.

968
00:41:02,458 --> 00:41:05,708
And that's when I started,
like, packing up.

969
00:41:05,833 --> 00:41:07,750
And, yeah...

970
00:41:07,875 --> 00:41:09,707
I left.

971
00:41:09,708 --> 00:41:13,207
If I could talk to my
11-year-old me

972
00:41:13,208 --> 00:41:15,374
watching Cathouse...

973
00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:17,374
Oh, man.
[laughs]

974
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,582
Sorry if I get
emotional in this, um...

975
00:41:19,583 --> 00:41:21,457
What I would say to
that little girl

976
00:41:21,458 --> 00:41:24,500
is don't let...

977
00:41:24,667 --> 00:41:27,707
any of the [beep] things
thrown your way break you.

978
00:41:27,708 --> 00:41:30,708
Don't diminish yourself to
make others comfortable.

979
00:41:31,708 --> 00:41:34,542
Be comfortable being you.

980
00:41:34,708 --> 00:41:44,083
♪

981
00:41:45,292 --> 00:41:47,042
I was a working girl
for Dennis Hof.

982
00:41:47,167 --> 00:41:49,500
I just thought, oh, God,
it's gonna be so much fun.

983
00:41:49,625 --> 00:41:51,582
He said, "You get to
pick and choose

984
00:41:51,583 --> 00:41:54,082
who you have sex with."

985
00:41:54,083 --> 00:41:56,250
[Dennis] I don't make
anybody do anything ever.

986
00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:58,166
[Tom] I know that there
are allegations of

987
00:41:58,167 --> 00:41:59,499
rape and violence.

988
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:02,541
The job of the documentary
was not to do

989
00:42:02,542 --> 00:42:06,374
an investigation into
the Bunny Ranch.

990
00:42:06,375 --> 00:42:08,957
The job was to create
a good time series.

991
00:42:08,958 --> 00:42:10,207
[Dennis] We're at
the Bunny Ranch.

992
00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:11,375
We're having fun.

993
00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:13,083
I just thought, oh, God,
it's gonna be so much fun.

994
00:42:13,208 --> 00:42:16,499
And I thought it was safe,
but it wasn't safe.

995
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,582
[DeAnne] He was
a very sick man.

996
00:42:18,583 --> 00:42:20,249
He hurt a lot of people.

997
00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,167
[Dennis]
I'm a straight guy.

998
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:23,416
I pay my taxes,
I do the right things.

999
00:42:23,417 --> 00:42:25,666
He's a monster.
I was molested,

1000
00:42:25,667 --> 00:42:28,749
and beaten, and raped
on a regular basis.

1001
00:42:28,750 --> 00:42:31,291
Girls come in, shut the door,
put a blanket over you

1002
00:42:31,292 --> 00:42:32,333
and beat the
[beep] out of you.

1003
00:42:32,708 --> 00:42:34,541
The Bunny Ranch is kind
of like Walmart or church.

1004
00:42:34,542 --> 00:42:36,416
You don't have to go
unless you want to.

1005
00:42:36,417 --> 00:42:37,624
[DeAnne] If you make
Dennis unhappy,

1006
00:42:37,625 --> 00:42:39,166
he is gonna hurt you.

1007
00:42:39,167 --> 00:42:41,417
This feels like
organized crime.

1008
00:42:41,542 --> 00:42:44,041
He was sort of a
degenerate Tony Soprano.

1009
00:42:44,042 --> 00:42:47,332
He thought he could do
whatever he wanted.

1010
00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:49,416
[DeAnne] He had
gotten so big...

1011
00:42:49,417 --> 00:42:52,667
that he couldn't be
contained anymore.


